Is this kind of drop possible?? - Guild Wars Forums

lightspeeddemon · Jun 08, 2009, 08:18 PM // 20:18

Inherent (non-insc/old school/Tyrian) 20/20 Wand or Inherent 20/20 Focus

By 20/20, I mean HCT/HRT

I've gotten a Cane that was

HCT 10% spells
HRT 10% spells

but have yet to see

HCT 20% Illusion Magic spells
HRT 20% Illusion Magic spells

Actually, through trades, through auctions, and through drops (I have been playing for years now), I have never seen a ***non-insc*** wand/rod/scepter that has an HCT/HRT value over 10% (over 10% would imply that the HCT/HRT applies specifically to the weapon/focus attribute)

I have seen staffs with 20/20 mods, but note that Wand Wrappings could not be applied in Prophecies, so they could be in a whole separate category.

***Wand Wrappings came along with Inscriptions

Does anyone know if these drops are even possible?
***Note, on wiki it says that not all Tyrian mods are available in inscriptions:
e.g. Damage+15% and Health regeneration -1

Is it possible that some inscriptions, such as these specific ones, are not transferrable to inherent mods? If you have seen a 20/20 inherent or have a screenshot, could you post it?

take_me · Jun 08, 2009, 08:25 PM // 20:25

Yes. 20/20 Wands and Foci are possible.
But you have to be quite lucky that the attribute actually fits the item's attribute or at least shares the same class.

There was a 20/20 Protection Offhand in the High End section a few months ago. I think Pleikki sold it, but can't find the thread.

I have a 20/20 Wand with 3 different attributes. I know it's bad, but it should just show you that 20/20 Tyrian/Canthan Wands or Canes are possible.
They are just super rare and good skins with matching attributes will cost a fortune.

+15% Damage / -1 Health/ Energy-Regeneration are not available as inscription

BLOODGOAT · Jun 08, 2009, 09:11 PM // 21:11

The fun thing about Tyria is that a weapon like that will require three different professions to actually make use of it. WOO TYRIA

Helix Dreadlock · Jun 08, 2009, 09:44 PM // 21:44

Yep
12 chars

eljer · Jun 09, 2009, 01:24 AM // 01:24

The weapons crafter in Vasburg Armory crafts 20/20 wands and offhands. Not a drop, I know, but easily accessible and non-inscribable

http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Gertrud

_Nihilist_ · Jun 09, 2009, 01:34 AM // 01:34

^
This is where I picked up my Necro's 20/20 Wand and 20/20 Offhand set for Curses. Well worth the mats + 10k crafting cost. Add to it that the skin is a Wailing Wand and a Bone Idol... kick ass!

I had a gold Fire Staff drop for me while doing a farming run outside of Bergen Hot Springs in HM on my Monk (Smiting Prayers vs. Undead FTW) that was req 9 (Fire Magic), 20% HSR (all spells), 19% HCT (Fire Magic). It's the best I've ever had drop for me from a kill, and it was part of a group of presents that I gave to my Wife last Wintersday after modding it with an Adept Staff Head (20% HCT Fire Magic) and a Staff Wrapping of Enchanting (20% longer enchantment duration).

lightspeeddemon · Jun 10, 2009, 10:19 PM // 22:19

I know about the crafters, and thank you

But still, I've never seen a drop that is above 10%, it seems that all drops when considering Wands, NOT Staves, only drop with HCT/HRT for all spells (making the cap 10%), rather than let's say HCT Illusion spells 11%. Can anyone confirm this?

eljer · Jun 10, 2009, 10:37 PM // 22:37

Looking through my storage, I found this focus:

Also, though its a bit old, theres also this wand on my ele:

So, though I've never seen an inherent 20/20 drop, it could be possible

EDIT:
just to show the HCT 20 (in a useless manor), heres this wand:

take_me · Jun 10, 2009, 10:54 PM // 22:54

Yes, 20/20 is possible. 3 different attributes ftw

btw: Nice Plagueborn Focus ^^

makosi · Jun 10, 2009, 11:05 PM // 23:05

Got this from Witman's Folly chest running a while ago.

Shame nobody wants it. QQ.

It probably would have been worth bazillions in the Mo/N boon prot era.

Jun 08, 2009, 08:18 PM // 20:18	#1
lightspeeddemon Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Dec 2008 Profession: R/Rt	Is this kind of drop possible?? Inherent (non-insc/old school/Tyrian) 20/20 Wand or Inherent 20/20 Focus By 20/20, I mean HCT/HRT I've gotten a Cane that was HCT 10% spells HRT 10% spells but have yet to see HCT 20% Illusion Magic spells HRT 20% Illusion Magic spells Actually, through trades, through auctions, and through drops (I have been playing for years now), I have never seen a *non-insc* wand/rod/scepter that has an HCT/HRT value over 10% (over 10% would imply that the HCT/HRT applies specifically to the weapon/focus attribute) I have seen staffs with 20/20 mods, but note that Wand Wrappings could not be applied in Prophecies, so they could be in a whole separate category. *Wand Wrappings came along with Inscriptions Does anyone know if these drops are even possible? *Note, on wiki it says that not all Tyrian mods are available in inscriptions: e.g. Damage+15% and Health regeneration -1 Is it possible that some inscriptions, such as these specific ones, are not transferrable to inherent mods? If you have seen a 20/20 inherent or have a screenshot, could you post it?

Jun 08, 2009, 08:25 PM // 20:25	#2
take_me Furnace Stoker Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Europe Guild: Country Roads [HOME]	Yes. 20/20 Wands and Foci are possible. But you have to be quite lucky that the attribute actually fits the item's attribute or at least shares the same class. There was a 20/20 Protection Offhand in the High End section a few months ago. I think Pleikki sold it, but can't find the thread. I have a 20/20 Wand with 3 different attributes. I know it's bad, but it should just show you that 20/20 Tyrian/Canthan Wands or Canes are possible. They are just super rare and good skins with matching attributes will cost a fortune. +15% Damage / -1 Health/ Energy-Regeneration are not available as inscription Last edited by take_me; Jun 08, 2009 at 08:48 PM // 20:48..

Jun 09, 2009, 01:34 AM // 01:34	#6
_Nihilist_ Will Bull's Strike for $! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Isle of the Dead	^ This is where I picked up my Necro's 20/20 Wand and 20/20 Offhand set for Curses. Well worth the mats + 10k crafting cost. Add to it that the skin is a Wailing Wand and a Bone Idol... kick ass! I had a gold Fire Staff drop for me while doing a farming run outside of Bergen Hot Springs in HM on my Monk (Smiting Prayers vs. Undead FTW) that was req 9 (Fire Magic), 20% HSR (all spells), 19% HCT (Fire Magic). It's the best I've ever had drop for me from a kill, and it was part of a group of presents that I gave to my Wife last Wintersday after modding it with an Adept Staff Head (20% HCT Fire Magic) and a Staff Wrapping of Enchanting (20% longer enchantment duration). __________________ Warrior for Hire

Jun 10, 2009, 10:37 PM // 22:37	#8
eljer Academy Page Join Date: Aug 2007 Guild: There Is A New Build Avail [able]	Looking through my storage, I found this focus: Also, though its a bit old, theres also this wand on my ele: So, though I've never seen an inherent 20/20 drop, it could be possible EDIT: just to show the HCT 20 (in a useless manor), heres this wand: Last edited by eljer; Jun 10, 2009 at 10:44 PM // 22:44..

Jun 10, 2009, 11:05 PM // 23:05	#10
makosi Grotto Attendant Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: "Pre-nerf" is incorrect. It's pre-buff. Guild: Requirement Begins With R [notQ] Profession: Me/	Got this from Witman's Folly chest running a while ago. Shame nobody wants it. QQ. It probably would have been worth bazillions in the Mo/N boon prot era. Last edited by makosi; Jun 10, 2009 at 11:07 PM // 23:07..

Jun 08, 2009, 09:11 PM // 21:11	#3
BLOODGOAT Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: long a Profession: Mo/	The fun thing about Tyria is that a weapon like that will require three different professions to actually make use of it. WOO TYRIA

Jun 08, 2009, 09:44 PM // 21:44	#4
Helix Dreadlock Jungle Guide Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Imperial Sanctum Guild: Legendary Drunken Masters [DUI] Profession: E/Me	Yep 12 chars

Jun 09, 2009, 01:24 AM // 01:24	#5
eljer Academy Page Join Date: Aug 2007 Guild: There Is A New Build Avail [able]	The weapons crafter in Vasburg Armory crafts 20/20 wands and offhands. Not a drop, I know, but easily accessible and non-inscribable http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Gertrud

Jun 10, 2009, 10:19 PM // 22:19	#7
lightspeeddemon Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Dec 2008 Profession: R/Rt	I know about the crafters, and thank you But still, I've never seen a drop that is above 10%, it seems that all drops when considering Wands, NOT Staves, only drop with HCT/HRT for all spells (making the cap 10%), rather than let's say HCT Illusion spells 11%. Can anyone confirm this?

Jun 10, 2009, 10:54 PM // 22:54	#9
take_me Furnace Stoker Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Europe Guild: Country Roads [HOME]	Yes, 20/20 is possible. 3 different attributes ftw btw: Nice Plagueborn Focus ^^